Can't stand either of them but I can take ignorance over arrogance any day

Arrogance is not stupidity as long as the person is humble enough to admit when they are wrong, and I personally have always been able to admit when I am in fact wrong. You would have to know me in order to know that. So just so you know Jeff not all people who are a little vain and/or arrogant are unable to admit when they are wrong. That is an unfair judgment and stereotype. Most are just simply confident of their feelings, knowledge, etc.

I'm very glad to hear that. I will keep posting, but you guys will have to forgive my sarcasm and not take it so personally. That is my sense of humor. It always has been. It's not meant to be mean or belittling of anyone. It's just how I express humor sometimes.

Arrogance to me is Stupidity because it means your too dumb to admit your wrong.

I think a lot of things are going to come out during the trial. I haven't seen definitive proof either way yet but I won't be surprised if proof does come up. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

Actually a lot of people have been discussing your posts lately. You have a lot of valid things to say and we can all learn from you, but the way you say it is often insulting and condescending. I enjoy reading what you have to say but could do without the insults. I hope you do keep posting because I like hearing different views on all the rivalries.

I did not make this personal mama kaz. You and several others here did. Don't feign ignorance that this particular rivalry was not created because several of you think I am arrogant. Kaz posted this more than likely because you two have probably discussed it. I may have considered you many things before, but let me assure you that stupid was not one of them. So don't act as if this rivalry has not been a direct result of ours and their former discussions. You know very well it is, and I don't need a confirmation to know it. I'm quite frankly tired of your immaturity, but I am willing to over look it and let that be that. I will continue to post as I have always posted so if you insist on reading my arguments, and then posting back, then don't be surprised if you don't like what I have to say. I guarantee it will never be meant to be rude or to belittle, but you know very well I use sarcasm quite a lot. So if sarcasm offends you then simply ignore my posts.

Well said, but for me I could care less. It's actually rather trivial to me. As long as he can run the country I don't really care about one little misstep.

Mama Kaz I am not angry. I don't know what makes you think I am. You don't honestly know me well enough to make that assertion, but I will say this. I have no problem with opinions so long as they are level headed and don't make guess work of common sense. With the exception of your first sentence everything you stated made sense. Even though I totally disagree. I believe we can rid the world of nuclear weapons, but your general argument makes sense. This is the kind of argument that although I could never agree with, I can still respect for the common sense involved.

What are you so angry about Rick? We're all just trying to have a discussion here. I think we all agree that a world with no nuclear weapons would be our ideal. Most of us just believe that we can't trust other countries to comply with any agreement to ban nuclear weapons.This is one area where we cannot afford to be the shining example and destroy our nuclear program. I think we're all afraid of what could happen but just don't see any solution to the problem because we're not dealing with rational people.

Karma. We've already seen what Lane Kiffin is all about and I am not at all surprised by this. I'm glad they are getting tougher because we don't set a very good example for our young people when we cheat to win.

I agree that all presidents are, at times, not so presidential. I don't like it when past presidents have done it and I don't like it when he does it. That's my OPINION, to which I am entitled.