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  • The Boss - 6/13/10 @ 9:37 AM
    This really needs to be put to rest as it's occupying too much of my time and comment space on this rivalry.

    As with all rivalries I post on the site they are derived from a multitude of sources; memories, something I heard on the radio, interaction, a simple thought, and so on.

    It would be a bold faced lie to say that my interaction with you didn't play at least some role in the thought process of this rivalry but I can tell it's not the primary source. This rivalry was not started as a stab at Rick; if I wanted to do that I would have specified your name in the title. This is a legitimate and very good question considering the things going on in our world today. What are you more tolerable of?

    I deal with arrogance and ignorance every day of my life; with me being the culprit at times. The bottom line is that this rivalry isn't about you. While my interaction with you may have been one small part to deriving the idea for this rivalry it's not the premise of this rivalry.

    Okay, as you agreed. Let's stay on topic.

  • LIBERAL - 6/13/10 @ 9:12 AM
    While I agree it may be a little presumptuous of me to assume that this particular rivalry is in any way connected to me one must admit the timing of the rivalry itself is very suspicious. Counter that with the fact that many of you have recently labeled me arrogant is even more suspicious. I have never DEMANDED anything from you. I never said you MUST tell me anything. I asked politely of you to answer the question for which you seemingly wish to withhold. That in itself is even more suspicious. If I am in fact wrong, then tell me I am wrong, that my supposed "arrogance" played absolutely no part in the creation of this rivalry and I will not comment on it again. I just do not understand why you are avoiding answering this one simple question. I have not meant to upset you or anyone else, but as I have said before I am simply seeking the truth. You may offer it or not. I thought for certain that you of all people would be level-headed about this and offer up a little truth. All I ask is that you show me the same respect I've always been willing to show you. I apologize if I have upset you or anyone else, and will be glad to "return" to the topic at hand if you can just show me a little honesty. This is just a request. Not a demand.

  • The Boss - 6/13/10 @ 8:58 AM
    I am a owner/administrator of this website and with that comes some responsibilities. Such as not letting the websites discussions drift away from the topic. Surely you've been on a online forum where administrators keep things on topic.
    Also, it is my responsibility to give JealousBrother users the power to control their involvement on the site which I have failed miserably on. I will be correcting this ASAP.
    The arrogance isn't with me refusing to answer your irrelevant question Rick. It's in your thinking you are in a position to demand it and the presumption you have on the answer to it.


  • LIBERAL - 6/13/10 @ 8:36 AM
    Mr. Kazinec I have always told you the truth. I have always been willing to explain myself and my beliefs. Your comment seems a little tyrannical and yes, a little arrogant. Are you so important, and better than me that you do not have to answer to anyone? This is the very heart of the matter for which we are discussing Mr. Kazinec. In fact it seems more relevant than anything that has been stated or posted so far. It is the prime example of arrogance vs. ignorance if ever the argument was to be made. So again, why do you feel as though you cannot answer the question?


  • LIBERAL - 6/13/10 @ 8:21 AM
    Mr. Kazinec, you did not answer my question. In fact you all but refused to answer it. Is it because I am correct in my assumption? Why is it so hard to admit? Can the truth not be told? Is is really that hard to say? I'm truly just asking a question. All I ask is that you be forthright and honest with me. There is no reason to be upset or to make threats. Let's be adults about this.


  • The Boss - 6/13/10 @ 8:15 AM
    If the motivating source for ANY rivalry on the websites isn't listed within the rivalries description, title, or in an immediately following comment it is NOT relevant.

    You have hijacked this rivalry and made it about yourself. I strongly suggest you get back on topic or I will be forced to remove any unrelated comments that follow so the others on the site can debate the topic at hand and the topic is not Rick. It is ignorance is easier to tolerate vs arrogance is easier to tolerate.

  • LIBERAL - 6/13/10 @ 8:12 AM
    Thank you Dennis. I appreciate your comments. I do not believe I am arrogant. I do however have a firm belief in what I believe is right or wrong. As an American citizen I was under the presumption that I had the right to do so. Now I know that sometimes my comments have been laced with sarcasm that for one reason or another some of you have taken far too personally, but it is simply my brand of humor. So many of you have mistook this for arrogance. Perhaps because it may come across as a little overbearing, but that is because I have an overbearing personality. I do not pretend as though I do not know I am overbearing, but I also know that when I am wrong I must admit it. It is how we learn. It is how we understand. I am human. I make mistakes just like everyone else, but I am willing to admit when I am wrong. It is actually amusing to me that so many of you have considered me arrogant when the majority of you cannot either admit you may in fact be wrong or that you might possibly have been wrong. Here is just one example. This is not meant to shun anyone or to belittle them. This is simply just what I have observed recently. The subject is the rivalry “Obama is a U.S. citizen vs. Obama is not a U.S. citizen”. Several of you had already chosen your sides by the time I joined the side “Obama is a U.S. citizen”. I had already seen the birth certificate online several times, but knew that none of you would believe me even if I had posted it, then something strange happened. Mr. Kazinec posted his (Obama’s) birth certificate. Thank you Mr. Kazinec, but that was not the strange thing that had happened. What was so strange was not that the creator of this rivalry admitted Obama is a U.S. citizen, but that mama kaz neither admitted she was wrong about her assumption that he was not a U.S. citizen or removed herself from that side of the rivalry. Here is something else to consider. Does anyone know what the definition of arrogance is? Quite frankly I had to look it up just to be certain, though I had a pretty good idea. Here is the Merriam-Webster’s definition. Arrogance-an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions. So one could argue that as she assumed Mr. Obama was not a U.S. citizen, and even presumed that no one could offer any proof that he was, or even admit that her assumption was incorrect when provided proof that he in fact is a citizen of the United States that perhaps her attitude may have been a little… …arrogant. Truth be told none of us are perfect. I know I’m not, but I have my beliefs. I am confident of those beliefs. I will not back down, and neither will I apologize for my beliefs. This is America. Where being a true American means being able to acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil whose standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You may not like my ideas or my beliefs, but they are mine, and I have every right to defend them. Sometimes I may be a little zealous in my defense, perhaps a little sarcastic, but I truly never intended to hurt anyone’s feelings. Clearly I did or else none of you would have resorted to name-calling. I apologize, but understand that this will in no way affect my future postings. I am very opinionated and often make use of sarcastic remarks in order to get a point across with a little humor on the side. So if you read my postings then you know what to expect. Don’t expect arrogance, but by all means do expect confidence. Now that, I have plenty to go around.

  • Dennis Plucinik - 6/13/10 @ 2:02 AM
    @Rick Re: "Arrogance is not stupidity as long as the person is humble enough to admit when they are wrong."

    Arrogance is the antithesis of humility so if you can admit that you're wrong in making that statement then you may claim that you are in fact not arrogant.

    Ref: http://www.synonym.com/antonym/arrogant/

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