Aside from the items you listed where you are proud of the president (I will be addressing this on the other rivalry when I get a chance to formerly respond.) I agree with your statement. I should note this is where the libertarian in me comes out; on foreign policy and individual rights.
My previous statements are in no way an endorsement for any political party. It is simply my belief that those we trust with the responsibilities of creating, interpreting, and enforcing our laws and rights should always be held accountable. Dissent is not only our constitutional right, it is often a necessity.
While I am a current supporter of President Obama these circumstances are really making me nauseous.
Let me explain. I want others to realize my true position on this matter.
In America's attempt to keep our country safe even one dead innocent civilian is too many. Especially when it's so avoidable. Drone strikes are clearly an ineffectual remedy to destroying our enemies abroad as they more often lead to civilian casualties. In addition to the loss of innocent lives we also damage what little diplomatic relations we carry within the country we carry out these heinous attacks. Not to mention alienating ourselves from other countries that used to regard the United States as a beacon for human rights protection.
Why is Guantanamo Bay still open? Why are we still torturing human beings in order to gain supposed valuable intelligence? Why are these men and women captured, brought to an American prison, and basically held indefinitely without any due process of law? How can any other country take the American legal system seriously if we don't either? And why, for the love of God, do many Americans think other nations are so barbaric when we cannot even get our own act together? What makes us so f#@%ing special that we feel completely just in our own actions while condemning others in the same breath of the very same conduct?
It was one thing for Obama to sign the NDAA/AUMF in order to get the necessary funding for our military, but entirely another to actually make such flagrant use of it after stating he would have very serious reservations as to implementing it. This really pisses me off!!!
Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that Obama has taken the stance he has on gay marriage. I like the majority of the Affordable Health Care Act. I'm glad he helped save the auto/bank/insurance industries. I'm even satisfied with his attempt to introduce both job and economic stimulus packages. For all of these things I am very proud of my president. So, why tarnish such a great effort with these kinds of acts? Does he really believe these efforts are doing more good than harm for the American people?
The answer is emphatically NO. There is NO justification for what are clearly acts against human rights. There is no justification for disregarding due process of law, whether on American soil or not. If we are to expect others to treat their own citizens with respect and dignity we cannot blatantly deny our own the very same rights. The authorization and use of military force should not be a stick wielded by just one man. Last time I looked we still have a legislative branch known as Congress. If military force is justified then it should be deemed necessary by a majority, not a singularity.
President Obama is not the only person to be blamed. Congress is to blame. Lobbyists are to blame. You are to blame. I am to blame. We cannot point fingers at only liberals, conservatives, independents, etc. The first step in solving the problem is to admit that there is one. Since when did this nation become so complacent as to believe that the government is almighty? They are not. They are not all powerful for one very good reason. Elections. We elect them. Make them answer for their actions. Vote. Send them the necessary message. If you stand for nothing... ...you'll fall for anything.
Ryan, and only Ryan, please tell me why you wouldn't vote for Obama. Please be specific. I really want to know. I am not being the least bit sarcastic. Tell me exactly what you believe about Obama's policies and beliefs. Why are his ideas and positions so detrimental to the American society?
There are a couple of problems; first, it's tough to persuade someone to vote for a candidate I'm not convinced I'm going to vote for. If I was enthusiastically impressed with Romney I would offer up a number of reasons to change your mind but I'm not so I won't.
The bottom line is that from what I know about your political beliefs, there is no reason you should change your vote. Simply put, you see nothing wrong with a majority of what President Obama has done (Making an assumption based on past comments and posts on Facebook) and therefore you would likely be very pleased with what he would accomplish being unrestrained from having to run for re-election in a second term.
I on the other hand despise most of what he believes in, how he views America, how he views the private sector, how he views the role of government, and so on. So needless to say I will likely be forced to vote for Romney not because I want to but because an unrestricted President Obama scares the living **$? out of me. As you said, you want your vote to count, as do I but I also want to vote my heart so I am still torn on what to do with the one certainty being that President Obama will not be receiving my vote.
I hope this response isn't taken as sarcastic as I'm being very sincere.
I guess I can offer this one political opinion tidbit; Romney is Obama light who is riding the political conservative train in an attempt to win the presidency. If you want a President who is similar to the current President with some private sector experience then Romney is your guy. Sarcasm implied. ;)
Oh, and by the way, I did not ask for a bunch of Obama bashing. I don't care to hear everyone's comments on why I shouldn't vote for President Obama. I am asking for those of you who wish to respond to tell my why you believe I should vote for Mitt Romney.
I want to put this question out there for anyone to answer. I want someone on here to explain to me why I should dump Obama and vote for Mitt Romney. Honestly, don't give me anybody's pragmatic political views on why voting for the lesser of two evils means still voting for an evil crap. Personally, I will be voting for either Obama or Romney simply because I want my vote to actually count. All of you can spew out your views about idealogies and such, but I refuse to cast a vote I know will not make a difference. We all know that the next President of the United States will either be Romney or Obama. No one else has a snowball's chance in HELL.
So, go ahead JealousBrother, explain why I should consider voting for Mitt Romney. This is not sarcasm. I am sincerely not being the least bit pedantic in my attempt to attract your comments. I truly want to know why any of you believe I should vote for this man. Honestly, I could change my mind, though I admit it would take a lot. I am an open-minded person. Try me.
Honestly, I hadn't even heard about the outburst you referred to. As always, feel free to start a rivalry on it. :) When I find time in between chasing little miss Rachael around I do a quick search on the news at the time and attempt to get something current on. I must have just missed the news cycle that contained the incident you referred to. I have no issue with calling into question people of all persuasions.
Let me explain. I want others to realize my true position on this matter.
In America's attempt to keep our country safe even one dead innocent civilian is too many. Especially when it's so avoidable. Drone strikes are clearly an ineffectual remedy to destroying our enemies abroad as they more often lead to civilian casualties. In addition to the loss of innocent lives we also damage what little diplomatic relations we carry within the country we carry out these heinous attacks. Not to mention alienating ourselves from other countries that used to regard the United States as a beacon for human rights protection.
Why is Guantanamo Bay still open? Why are we still torturing human beings in order to gain supposed valuable intelligence? Why are these men and women captured, brought to an American prison, and basically held indefinitely without any due process of law? How can any other country take the American legal system seriously if we don't either? And why, for the love of God, do many Americans think other nations are so barbaric when we cannot even get our own act together? What makes us so f#@%ing special that we feel completely just in our own actions while condemning others in the same breath of the very same conduct?
It was one thing for Obama to sign the NDAA/AUMF in order to get the necessary funding for our military, but entirely another to actually make such flagrant use of it after stating he would have very serious reservations as to implementing it. This really pisses me off!!!
Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that Obama has taken the stance he has on gay marriage. I like the majority of the Affordable Health Care Act. I'm glad he helped save the auto/bank/insurance industries. I'm even satisfied with his attempt to introduce both job and economic stimulus packages. For all of these things I am very proud of my president. So, why tarnish such a great effort with these kinds of acts? Does he really believe these efforts are doing more good than harm for the American people?
The answer is emphatically NO. There is NO justification for what are clearly acts against human rights. There is no justification for disregarding due process of law, whether on American soil or not. If we are to expect others to treat their own citizens with respect and dignity we cannot blatantly deny our own the very same rights. The authorization and use of military force should not be a stick wielded by just one man. Last time I looked we still have a legislative branch known as Congress. If military force is justified then it should be deemed necessary by a majority, not a singularity.
President Obama is not the only person to be blamed. Congress is to blame. Lobbyists are to blame. You are to blame. I am to blame. We cannot point fingers at only liberals, conservatives, independents, etc. The first step in solving the problem is to admit that there is one. Since when did this nation become so complacent as to believe that the government is almighty? They are not. They are not all powerful for one very good reason. Elections. We elect them. Make them answer for their actions. Vote. Send them the necessary message. If you stand for nothing... ...you'll fall for anything.
The bottom line is that from what I know about your political beliefs, there is no reason you should change your vote. Simply put, you see nothing wrong with a majority of what President Obama has done (Making an assumption based on past comments and posts on Facebook) and therefore you would likely be very pleased with what he would accomplish being unrestrained from having to run for re-election in a second term.
I on the other hand despise most of what he believes in, how he views America, how he views the private sector, how he views the role of government, and so on. So needless to say I will likely be forced to vote for Romney not because I want to but because an unrestricted President Obama scares the living **$? out of me. As you said, you want your vote to count, as do I but I also want to vote my heart so I am still torn on what to do with the one certainty being that President Obama will not be receiving my vote.
I hope this response isn't taken as sarcastic as I'm being very sincere.
I guess I can offer this one political opinion tidbit; Romney is Obama light who is riding the political conservative train in an attempt to win the presidency. If you want a President who is similar to the current President with some private sector experience then Romney is your guy. Sarcasm implied. ;)
So, go ahead JealousBrother, explain why I should consider voting for Mitt Romney. This is not sarcasm. I am sincerely not being the least bit pedantic in my attempt to attract your comments. I truly want to know why any of you believe I should vote for this man. Honestly, I could change my mind, though I admit it would take a lot. I am an open-minded person. Try me.