Dr. Jack Cassel Has the Right

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Dr. Jack Cassel posted an anti Obama sign outside his urology clinic. Should he be penalized or does he have the right?


Posted by in Politics / News on 4/05/10
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Side A Comment

RANDJA - 4/21/10 @ 8:30 PM:
LIBERAL - 4/21/10 @ 8:46 PM: Rival | Side B
This is America RANDJA, which is why we are all entitled to our opinion. Apparently no matter how childish or hypocritical.

Side A Comment

mama kaz - 4/18/10 @ 8:40 AM:
I think the doctor is just making a point. He understands that this health care bill is going to change his medical practice in some very profound ways. I know some people think doctors should be willing to work for minimum wage but I saw how hard they worked and what it took for them to become doctors. Doctors refuse to see patients all the time for a variety of reasons. All medical groups cut off the number of government paid health care patients that they see because taking on too many will drain their practice and put them out of business. We all expect to get paid for our work and doctors are no exception. Residents work for days on end with almost no sleep and most of them incur tremendous debt to obtain their medical degrees.It's not unreasonable to want to make a good living while helping patients.
I think we will start seeing a lot of cash only medical clinics open and this is where the best doctors will be unless the government finds a way to stop them. Those of us who can't afford to private pay will have to use government health care. My choices are being taken away by people who don't even understand how the medical system works. I resent that and if I didn't live in the middle of no where I'd have a sign in my yard too.

Side B Comment

LIBERAL - 4/7/10 @ 9:42 PM:
"He was the kind of man that would bend over backwards and then give you the shirt off your back."

Sorry guys. I meant to say "He was the kind of man that would bend over backwards and then give you the shirt off his back."

Side B Comment

LIBERAL - 4/7/10 @ 9:39 PM:
Kaz, as long as he does not refuse his services based on his beliefs then I personally have no problem, but the moment he refuses service or does not treat a patient with the very same care he should based on their beliefs or opinions then I have a VERY big problem with that. Like I stated before he can believe and think as he wishes. That's his right as an American citizen. The moment it affects how he deals with his patients it crosses the line and steps should be taken to correct that situation. My family doctor years ago was a Republican. He and I used to talk about things all the time. He knew I was a democrat, and we had the best conversations whenever I visited. He was the kind of man that would bend over backwards and then give you the shirt off your back. My mom and I adored him and thought he was the BEST doctor either of us had ever known. When he passed away we went to his funeral. You'd have thought half the city of Athens was there. One of the things that always stuck in my head that he and I discussed was the fact that regardless of whether he and I agreed or disagreed on a particular matter he always said "Rick, I'm a republican. I don't budge, and I'm very old fashioned, but when I see you I'm not a republican, I'm not even an American, I'm a doctor. My job is to take make you better." I'll always think the world of that man. He was a good man, and a wonderful doctor. I'd give anything to find a doctor like him again.
LIBERAL - 4/7/10 @ 9:44 PM: Ally | Side B
Hey guys. Sorry for all the mistakes in the reply. In a hurry. Have to go to bed soon. Work early in the morning. Hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. lol
The Boss - 4/8/10 @ 4:39 PM: Rival | Side A
Don't worry about the typos; you still exercised better grammar than half of those on the internet.

Side A Comment

Olivia Newton - 4/7/10 @ 5:35 PM:
Bottom line: He is a doctor and should not be inquiring about anyone's political affiliations. However, I see our personal freedoms falling by the wayside, so I do endorse his right to post the sign, regardless of how tasteless it is.

Side B Comment

Dennis Plucinik - 4/6/10 @ 9:55 PM:
1) Who you voted for is a private matter that no one will have to prove anyhow so this guy basically just looks like an idiot.

2) Yes he has the freedom to say stuff that makes him look like said idiot - unless there's a law against that kind of stuff for lawyers and attorneys. I personally don't know if there is so I'm just saying.

I do think the sign is kind of funny though.

Side A Comment

cutie122403 - 4/6/10 @ 9:47 PM:
It is his practice and what the heck happened to freedom of speech?!
LIBERAL - 4/6/10 @ 10:33 PM: Rival | Side B
Umm. Cutie nobody said he didn't have freedom of speech. He can say whatever he likes, but when you state that you will no longer accept patients who support Obama, then everyone should have a problem. This is a man with obligations neither you nor myself will ever have. As a Team Lead for Target whenever I don't offer the best possible guest service nobody dies!! Ethically this man has obligations to his patients and to his profession that far outweigh his own beliefs. That is the awesome responsibility that you take on when you decide to become a physician. A healer of the people. Someone who regardless of their own political beliefs is responsible for the health of his patients and sometimes their very lives. Politics and beliefs are something that do not belong inside the operating room, and as a physician of medical science he should d*** well know better!

Side B Comment

LIBERAL - 4/6/10 @ 5:30 PM:
Actually he does not have the right to do this. He does have every right to speak his mind on health care. He also has every right to post a sign stating his own beliefs, but what he does not have the right to do is to tell his patients that if they are supporters of Obama that they should go somewhere else. He's a doctor for God's sake. There are two professions in the United States in the private sector that do not allow for this type of behavior. An attorney and a doctor. Why? Because both professions require that the attorney or doctor remain unbiased toward their clients and patients. So sacred is the relationships between clients and attorneys, patients and doctors that both professions are required to take oaths of their office.

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

This is known as the "Hippocratic Oath", and is a long time tradition that doctors are supposed to honor in order to practice medicine with the highest ethics and best of intentions.

Doctor Jack Cassell should be reprimanded for his lack of ethics. Perhaps it would remind him of his responsibility to not only his patients, but his colleagues, and to the office for which he holds. I would personally ask him "Have you no decency?"
The Boss - 4/7/10 @ 12:50 PM: Rival | Side A
While you make a good point Rick; from a legal stand point, as far as I know he's not refused anyone service. If a Obama or Healthcare supporter came into his clinic seeking service and they were denied because of their political affiliation then you'd be right. Posting a sign is one thing, denying service because of someones ideology is another. What do you think?

Side A Comment

Tomegun - 4/6/10 @ 1:13 PM:
This is an easy one. It is his practice and he has the right to do this. His customers also have the right to go someplace else.

Side A Comment

The Boss - 4/5/10 @ 5:23 PM:
While I share the doctors opinion of health care reform I do think this was in poor taste and will certainly decrease his patients who support the bill but may increase the amount of patients he has who oppose it.

While pondering my position on this one I asked myself how I would feel if this was directed towards former President Bush; I would be a bit disgusted unless it was warranted but I would support the doctors right to freedom of speech and as long as he owned his clinic or had approval to post such a sign I would see nothing wrong with it.

However, I believe all consumers can speak very loudly with their pocket books. If I was offended by this I would seek urology care elsewhere, plain and simple.

For you Florida voters; It's time to get rid of Alan Grayson. He is an elitist who is making a mockery of your state. If I could live in three states at once I'd vote here in Tennessee and I'd cast a ballot in Florida and South Carolina to remove Grayson and Graham from office.

Side A Comment

The Boss - 4/5/10 @ 5:16 PM:
Here is what his sign said, "If you voted for Obama, seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years."

Here's a Fox News article on the doctor and this strange situation:
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