LOL, Ryan, I understand that reference is used in that manner, but the TEABAGGER reference isn't actually based upon that circumstance. It's based upon those within the Tea Party that use tea bags to decorate themselves with who attend those rallies. It's unfortunate that the term is so synonymous with that act, but it's origin is not based on a sexual act, rather the acts of those who attend the rallies. If you choose to equate the two, it's because YOU did, not me. I use the reference exactly as it's meant. You can't always prevent people from misinterpreting things, but did you forget that it was me that made the reference? You know very well that's not how I intend it to be used. Let's at least be honest about that, though you did make me laugh a little seeing it this morning. All jokes aside, any time I make that reference it is intended exactly as I meant. It represents those members who drape them from the corners of their hats and other articles of clothing.
Actually, I issued a correction mentioning that I noticed it was used in a stereotypical reference which is why I followed up with an outstanding joke.
I have no problem with stereotypes but let's not confuse the comments you referenced of mine as anywhere near as insulting as referring to a group of people as a male bean bag being smacked against a face. Tremendously different. But then again, stereotypes are fine, I initially thought you had issued a blanket statement about the entire community. But I appreciate you highlighting some wonderful comments of mine!
Ryan,just wanted to show you what I meant concerning my argument about how we all use stereotypes from one degree to another. I'm not being a smarta$$, but after our argument it just seemed to me as though you were implying you never stereotype. I disagreed and stated that we all do it, because it is human nature.
Ryan Kazinec - 6/17/12 @ 2:21 PM:
I'd imagine this is one of those issues that will split down party lines but I'm sure there are some independent thinkers out there that aren't amused by the progressive influence these celebrities have over the idiotic dumb-masses not to mention the close relationships they have with our president.
Obviously I get nauseated anytime one of these elitist celebs opens their mouth spewing progressive rhetoric but it is their right as it is their right to use their influence to help a like minded president. Not that Obama could ever gain my support but being surrounded by Hollywood brass doesn't do anything but further turn me off to anything he has to say.
It seems like once a week I get an email from the Obama campaign touting another dinner with X celebrity and a plea from Joe, Michelle, or Barack to donate for a chance to win a seat. Folks this is real life, not Hollywood special effects, screenplays, and fake boobs.
Ryan Kazinec - 6/23/12 @ 8:06 AM:
My personal opinion of the Gay and Lesbian community is that they are a bit out there with their parades and such but there is no way this reflects the majority of the community. This is simply a couple *@$!?* that obviously didn't think their actions through.
Ryan Kazinec - 5/30/12 @ 6:56 PM:Ally | Side A
While I certainly see your point I have to strongly disagree. Maybe it's my business mind set but you HAVE to analyze your return on investment (ROI) and determine whether or not it's cost effective to attend college. Currently there are certainly means to get a decent education for under 25k and while that's a bit steep I could argue it's worth it for a number of reasons. However we are facing a crisis that will push College tuition to the point of making it a horrible investment in the very near future. Tuition is skyrocketing faster than inflation and wage increases and if it doesn't slow down or retract community college could cost 50k and at the point you really have to ask yourself when you'll see a ROI.
You are right there are many avenues to have your schooling paid for (or borrow) if you're below the poverty line and especially if you've popped a couple of kids out that are being fed by EBT and WIC but for all of us working folk those handouts aren't available as someone has to pay for them.
We all do it, whether we freely admit it or not. I don't mind saying that I have and do, because I'm not perfect.
Well, there's something we do agree on. Destruction has been done throughout the years to the rights guaranteed to American citizens under the Constitution, but you and I probably disagree as to which rights have been violated to a degree. I don't believe in the Patriot Act. It is much too overreaching an act that it violates the rights of Americans. The NDAA/AUMF places too much power into the hands of a sitting and future President. I'm sure there's more, but now I'm getting off topic. Sorry.
While I believe the founding fathers wanted a Republic they just didn't trust normal everyday Americans with things like foreign relations, military, treasury, and many other issues to the point that they could place that trust in their hands. Which is why we ended up with a charter that created more of a democracy than a republic. I just find it humorous so many think we currently live in one(republic), when in fact, it never really resembled much of one in the first place. I'm not saying that is such a bad or good thing, just that that is the way of things whether we admit it or not.
I know you weren't purposely looking for it Ryan. It was just a jab. A joke. I was poking fun at the definition, yet pointing out the truth.
All aboard!! I'm getting back on track now. LOL. This law is not treasonous. That's what opponents yell when they don't agree with something. I believe that this law is a huge step forward to hopefully either a single payer system or public option health care system. Obviously I don't like everything about it, but at least we're heading forward instead of backward. People oppose this law just like they did other programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. However, those same people would now stand up and make boisterous remarks like "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!" LOL. Really? The government is the one responsible for them having this program in the first place. It just seems a little ironic to me. People seem to have no real sense of history anymore.
Well, I can argue all night with you about this, but if you keep insisting on not being right then we will just have to disagree. Agreed? LOL. Now, that was funny. ;-)
Oh come on, organized labor was all over those protests and they weren't just protesting Wall Street (Do I really need to pull up pictures of their signs? I wouldn't think that would be necessary). They're as liberal as the Tea Party is conservative. I disagree with your disagreement, How about that?
Okay, if we're going to get so technical to break down the social manufacturing process of stereotypes then sure the Media doesn't create it but you can't bake a pie without the ingredients and that they do supply.
Then you and I disagree. How about that? By the way, media does not create stereotypes. People do. Media simply substantiates it by its biased opinion. It is simply human nature to do so, and anyone who says they don't or haven't is either too naive or too complacent to admit the truth. By the way, Occupy protesters protested Wall Street. They did not specifically identify their political affiliations because they were composed primarily of all party types. Bad analogy. ;-0 I see what you were trying to say, but the argument is still moot due to human nature. Please remember this though, my stereotype was of a fraction of the Tea Party members. I did not classify the Tea Party with my insult, but the group within them that insists on showing themselves to be a highly uneducated, racist, and bigoted cartel of hatemongers who claim to love America. Admittedly I'm sure the liberals and Democrats have a similar base, but at least we purposely try to distance ourselves from them. I don't mind if you call those types libtards. Perhaps they deserve it. Yeah, they probably do. As the saying goes "a few rotten ones will spoil the whole bunch". If some members of the Tea Party would admit how ridiculous some of these people are I wouldn't be so inclined to think it so humorous, but often is the case that they actually defend these morons.
I too could gather a bunch of ignoramus comments, signs, etc... by groups like the Occupy Protesters but doing so would have the same affect as your attempt; it will fall flat and prove nothing about the entire movement. It's always the idiots that are filmed and photographed because they bring the most entertainment value to the 24 news channels. I do have to disagree that the stereotypes have to be embedded in some truth; Fox News works to build stereotypes of groups like the one aforementioned and every other news channel does the same against the Tea Party. It doesn't validate the stereotype it validates our corrupt slanted media outlets.
Ryan, are you trying to be funny? Seriously? We all use stereotypes in one way or another, and you know that to be truth. Are you seriously going to explain that you've never stereotyped another person or party? Now, while I don't believe all Tea Party members are idiots, I am afraid I consider quite of few of them to be of low intelligence, and to suggest that there isn't sufficient reasoning for this is simply ludicrous. Case in point:
Stereotypes derive from some truth or else they wouldn't be used in the first place. In other words if there weren't so many of the signs, demonstrations, and statements made by the ignorant part of this movement then their lack of education/knowledge would not be called into question. For example: Don't we all love us some Sarah Palin? I know I do. Here's a quote by the infamous former Alaskan governor.
"Go back to what our founders and founding documents meant-they're quite clear-that we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the Ten Commandments."
Yep. She actually said that aloud. Here's another quote.
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
That was stated by a gentleman giving a speech before the ratification of the Constitution of the United States. His name was John Adams.
If the Tea Party didn't want to appear so inept and uneducated, then I would suggest making sure someone at these rallies perform a spellcheck before allowing every Tom, #&$?% and Harry to carry around their signs where everyone could see them. I would also suggest that it might be more beneficial for their candidates to have someone assist them with their history before making baseless and ridiculous quotes like this.
I'm not saying this to be mean. I'm not even saying that all Tea Party members are ignorant or stupid. What I am saying is that if a certain group of people don't wish to be stereotyped in such a manner, then perhaps they should not allow themselves to be placed into that position in the first place. You have to admit... ...they brought it upon themselves.
I certainly can't argue that a great deal of destruction has been done by progressives of both parties throughout history and our present system of government has been grossly altered from what it was. (Correction: Should have stated Role of Government and power(Especially to the Executive Branch.))
FYI, I was legitimately looking up the discussions of republic vs democracy but for kicks and giggles, navigate to the link you provided which has liberal pasted over the entire source(sarcasm implied). After you've navigated there, you will see where the United States is listed in parenthesis directly after "May have a presidential system". Click on the United States and you are now on the wikipedia page for the United States. You will also see something strange on the second line of that entry. I'm simply presenting proof that I didn't go and search for constitutional republic nor would I have to in order to be presented with that information.
This is the page you will make it to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
I have no problem with stereotypes but let's not confuse the comments you referenced of mine as anywhere near as insulting as referring to a group of people as a male bean bag being smacked against a face. Tremendously different. But then again, stereotypes are fine, I initially thought you had issued a blanket statement about the entire community. But I appreciate you highlighting some wonderful comments of mine!
Ryan Kazinec - 6/17/12 @ 2:21 PM:
I'd imagine this is one of those issues that will split down party lines but I'm sure there are some independent thinkers out there that aren't amused by the progressive influence these celebrities have over the idiotic dumb-masses not to mention the close relationships they have with our president.
Obviously I get nauseated anytime one of these elitist celebs opens their mouth spewing progressive rhetoric but it is their right as it is their right to use their influence to help a like minded president. Not that Obama could ever gain my support but being surrounded by Hollywood brass doesn't do anything but further turn me off to anything he has to say.
It seems like once a week I get an email from the Obama campaign touting another dinner with X celebrity and a plea from Joe, Michelle, or Barack to donate for a chance to win a seat. Folks this is real life, not Hollywood special effects, screenplays, and fake boobs.
Ryan Kazinec - 6/23/12 @ 8:06 AM:
My personal opinion of the Gay and Lesbian community is that they are a bit out there with their parades and such but there is no way this reflects the majority of the community. This is simply a couple *@$!?* that obviously didn't think their actions through.
Ryan Kazinec - 5/30/12 @ 6:56 PM:Ally | Side A
While I certainly see your point I have to strongly disagree. Maybe it's my business mind set but you HAVE to analyze your return on investment (ROI) and determine whether or not it's cost effective to attend college. Currently there are certainly means to get a decent education for under 25k and while that's a bit steep I could argue it's worth it for a number of reasons. However we are facing a crisis that will push College tuition to the point of making it a horrible investment in the very near future. Tuition is skyrocketing faster than inflation and wage increases and if it doesn't slow down or retract community college could cost 50k and at the point you really have to ask yourself when you'll see a ROI.
You are right there are many avenues to have your schooling paid for (or borrow) if you're below the poverty line and especially if you've popped a couple of kids out that are being fed by EBT and WIC but for all of us working folk those handouts aren't available as someone has to pay for them.
We all do it, whether we freely admit it or not. I don't mind saying that I have and do, because I'm not perfect.
While I believe the founding fathers wanted a Republic they just didn't trust normal everyday Americans with things like foreign relations, military, treasury, and many other issues to the point that they could place that trust in their hands. Which is why we ended up with a charter that created more of a democracy than a republic. I just find it humorous so many think we currently live in one(republic), when in fact, it never really resembled much of one in the first place. I'm not saying that is such a bad or good thing, just that that is the way of things whether we admit it or not.
I know you weren't purposely looking for it Ryan. It was just a jab. A joke. I was poking fun at the definition, yet pointing out the truth.
All aboard!! I'm getting back on track now. LOL. This law is not treasonous. That's what opponents yell when they don't agree with something. I believe that this law is a huge step forward to hopefully either a single payer system or public option health care system. Obviously I don't like everything about it, but at least we're heading forward instead of backward. People oppose this law just like they did other programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. However, those same people would now stand up and make boisterous remarks like "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!" LOL. Really? The government is the one responsible for them having this program in the first place. It just seems a little ironic to me. People seem to have no real sense of history anymore.
Okay, if we're going to get so technical to break down the social manufacturing process of stereotypes then sure the Media doesn't create it but you can't bake a pie without the ingredients and that they do supply.
I too could gather a bunch of ignoramus comments, signs, etc... by groups like the Occupy Protesters but doing so would have the same affect as your attempt; it will fall flat and prove nothing about the entire movement. It's always the idiots that are filmed and photographed because they bring the most entertainment value to the 24 news channels. I do have to disagree that the stereotypes have to be embedded in some truth; Fox News works to build stereotypes of groups like the one aforementioned and every other news channel does the same against the Tea Party. It doesn't validate the stereotype it validates our corrupt slanted media outlets.
http://http://samuel-warde.com/2012/06/teabonics-will-someone-teach-these-nit-wits-to-spell-already/
Stereotypes derive from some truth or else they wouldn't be used in the first place. In other words if there weren't so many of the signs, demonstrations, and statements made by the ignorant part of this movement then their lack of education/knowledge would not be called into question. For example: Don't we all love us some Sarah Palin? I know I do. Here's a quote by the infamous former Alaskan governor.
"Go back to what our founders and founding documents meant-they're quite clear-that we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the Ten Commandments."
Yep. She actually said that aloud. Here's another quote.
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
That was stated by a gentleman giving a speech before the ratification of the Constitution of the United States. His name was John Adams.
If the Tea Party didn't want to appear so inept and uneducated, then I would suggest making sure someone at these rallies perform a spellcheck before allowing every Tom, #&$?% and Harry to carry around their signs where everyone could see them. I would also suggest that it might be more beneficial for their candidates to have someone assist them with their history before making baseless and ridiculous quotes like this.
I'm not saying this to be mean. I'm not even saying that all Tea Party members are ignorant or stupid. What I am saying is that if a certain group of people don't wish to be stereotyped in such a manner, then perhaps they should not allow themselves to be placed into that position in the first place. You have to admit... ...they brought it upon themselves.
FYI, I was legitimately looking up the discussions of republic vs democracy but for kicks and giggles, navigate to the link you provided which has liberal pasted over the entire source(sarcasm implied). After you've navigated there, you will see where the United States is listed in parenthesis directly after "May have a presidential system". Click on the United States and you are now on the wikipedia page for the United States. You will also see something strange on the second line of that entry. I'm simply presenting proof that I didn't go and search for constitutional republic nor would I have to in order to be presented with that information.
This is the page you will make it to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States