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No Concerns of Muslims in Airports

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This rivalry was sparked by the Juan Williams controversy. As an individual what personal, internal reaction do you have when you see an obvious (dressed) Muslim in a airport(Post 9/11)? Speak your heart. Let’s have an honest discussion.


Posted by in World / Conflicts on 10/22/10
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  1. TNinfidel (6 votes) Validated Ego
  1. Olivia Newton (1 votes)

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Side A Comment

randja - 3/8/11 @ 9:47 PM:

Side A Comment

mama kaz - 11/29/10 @ 11:59 AM:
I am very edgy when I see Muslims on a flight I'm getting on. I think we should all be that way and be on alert in case action needs to be taken. The people on flight 93 left a legacy of courage that I hope we will never forget. I think of them and the other people in the planes that crashed into buildings every day and even more so when I fly. Muslims, good or bad, remind me of that.

Side B Comment

TattedAngel - 11/20/10 @ 1:38 PM:
My thing is, if they are in their full on get-up, they are not hiding who or what they are. Most won't broadcast they are going to be stupid...lol

Side A Comment

TNinfidel - 10/27/10 @ 6:50 PM: Validated Ego
Yes, it is true that not all muslims are terrorists. There are many caring uninformed muslims. A good many have no idea what islam is about. However, religion is a very powerful thing and islam's supremacist ideology makes it a very real threat to humanity.

There are three choices for Christians and Jews concerning islam. Convert, pay a tax of submission, or die.

The quran 9:29
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Here are some more good links-



Side A Comment

Olivia Newton - 10/27/10 @ 5:00 PM:
TNinfidel, I really enjoyed your comments. Of course I realize that all Muslims aren't terrorists, but it seems to me that all terrorists are Muslim. They killed 3,000 of our people on 9/11, as well as committing other acts of terrorism around the world. It is common knowledge that their religion says to kill all of us. And yes, I would be very concerned if I saw them on a plane in which I was flying.

Side A Comment

TNinfidel - 10/27/10 @ 12:17 PM: Validated Ego
Well, I just typed a crap load of stuff here but, when I went to submit, I was logged out again and it was ALL lost...

So, in short, I am atheist. Religion is crap; be it Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Scientology or islam. When muslims bring up so called offensive verses from "the bible" they are attempting to deflect criticism of islam by changing the subject.

And oh yes, read Robert Spencer's book "The Truth About Muhammad".


Hope you get the log in thing fixed. I just cursed the computer pretty good. Danged frustrating...
The Boss - 10/27/10 @ 12:29 PM: Ally | Side A
Sorry about your log in timing out. When I researched storing cookies long term a few months back I came across some serious security threats for the end users accounts. Example: A hacker could clone an individuals pc and access their JealousBrother account. I know it's a stretch to see that happen but I didn't want to compromise the users security.

I'll look into this once again to see if there is anything I can do. I may be able to at least extend the time the cookies are stored so this type of thing wouldn't happen. (You would still be logged out if you close your browser.)

On to your last comment: I am not an atheist as I do believe there is a God of some kind but I am certainly religiously skeptical.

Side A Comment

TNinfidel - 10/27/10 @ 1:06 AM: Validated Ego
Remember colleges and universities are primarily run by progressives. You will rarely get anything but political correctness from them. Here ya go. The evidence-

Muhammad's 9 year old bride (yep, the dirty old bugger liked kids)-

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

The quran teaches:
* Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them (2:191)
* Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood (9:123)
* When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
* Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizyah tax (9:29)
* Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
* The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
* Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam. (5:33)
* The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
* Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
* Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
* The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
* Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
* Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Quran (8:12)
* Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels (8:60)

The quran [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The quran 8:12

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. "

Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.

Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

These are just samples here are links that lead to more-













I hope this helps to enlighten everyone about the true nature of islam.
The Boss - 10/27/10 @ 8:38 AM: Ally | Side A
Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to provide this information. I'm going to spend some time diving into the quran later tonight to validate the versus; so I have no doubts personally.

As an individual who is uncertain of his religious stance let me play devils advocate and ask a question about Christianity.

I've heard repeatedly from the likes of liberals and athiests like Bill Mahr quoting horrendous versus in the bible. One that comes to mind; something like ...if your neighbor comes upon your land he should surely die. (This is from memory and I'm sure it's off a bit but you get the point.) So basically Muslims would counter the versus above with offensive versus found in the bible.

Here's a few examples. (Haven't fact checked the source)


Side A Comment

TNinfidel - 10/26/10 @ 12:19 AM: Validated Ego
When I see an obvious muslim anywhere, I think to myself, "These people think that a mass murdering pedophile is the greatest man to have ever lived." I often wonder they can reconcile muhammad's pedophilia, his wanton thieving and murdering, and the terrorizing of nonbelievers.

I mean, islam was pretty much made up by this sociopathic pervert so he could have sex with anyone he lusted after (including 9 year old girls) and to satisfy his megalomania. Islam is nothing but a twisted, barbaric lie; a 7th century death cult.
The Boss - 10/26/10 @ 7:23 PM: Ally | Side A
I'd be very curious to see the evidence that's brought you to this conclusion. I've heard varying opinions on the religion of Islam and I have to admit they left out a majority of the negatives I've heard when I took a religions of the world course in college.

Links would be beneficial to everyone.
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