Investing in Alternative Fuel

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Drilling in ANWR Alaska

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What is the solution to $5.00 a gallon gas prices?

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Posted by in Science / Sustainability on 8/02/08
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  1. gonzo (3 votes)
  1. Weasel (2 votes)
  1. Olivia Newton (1 votes)
  1. Dennis Plucinik (1 votes)
  1. nickd67 (1 votes)

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Side A Comment

Indie_Eric - 12/18/08 @ 2:16 AM:
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$%@# Palin save out environment from strip mining and drilling in our nature preserves. Alternative fuels can reduce our carbon foot print on the world that provides up life.

Side B Comment

mama kaz - 10/20/08 @ 10:34 PM:
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We have to stop our dependence on foreign oil. I think we all need to look into alternative fuels and my husband and I are going to when we build on our property. But, there's a lot of oil under our soil and drilling is a lot safer than what we're being told. My dad worked in the oil fields in the midwest and I lived and played around oil rigs growing up. And,news flash.. Our entire Congress, Senate, and House put us into debt, not Bush. We are in debt because of greed and corruption that is so widespread in our government that no one has clean hands. I'm so sick of the blame game. They are ALL guilty but the democrats are the ones who keep enabling people to be government dependent in exchange for votes. Buying a house is a privilege not a God given right. People don't appreciate what they don't work for. Just drive through government housing anywhere and see for yourself. Just be sure to lock your car doors...

Side B Comment

AvidReader - 10/3/08 @ 4:16 PM:
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Hey guys, where is the "all of the above" category. With almost all the transportation in the country running on liquid fuel .. ie. petroleum products. People who think we can have energy independence by doing ONE thing are naive. Let's stop shipping BILLIONS to foreign countries and KEEP that money circulating in the US... AND... use some of these record oil profit TAXES and Gas price TAXES to invest in Alternative Energy and Alternative Transportation. There is no PURE answer, no Black and White and holding out for PURITY is what has cost us time and money!

Side B Comment

Dennis Plucinik - 8/25/08 @ 11:19 PM:
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$$!@ it I changed my mind let's drill.
gonzo - 9/3/08 @ 7:04 PM: Rival | Side A
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nobody likes a traitor. lol

Side A Comment

ashley_r146 - 8/23/08 @ 9:52 PM:
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aside from what we may need in the future...global warming is a huge issue and its getting worse by the month. I think the government should have started working on this 10 years ago but since bush became the president of the United States, nothing has been done. That was no surprise though. He has only put our country so far in debt it will take decades probably to fix things. The oil in Alaska should not be touched. Every time they go in and start sucking from the earths core..it harms us in ways we cannot even see. There is a reason they will not let them take it. They have already got everything else and no telling what kind of profits they have made off of it. The government is very secretive..theres no telling what they have. We wouldn't know if they had something right now. As long as they can keep getting money from the mass productions of oil ...why would they stop?

Side A Comment

jabailo - 8/22/08 @ 10:18 AM:
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We are being lied to about Hydrogen -- this country produces enough to fuel more than 150 million fuel cell vehicles -- right now. Here's a map of existing hydrogen production:

http://www.h2andyou.org/pdf/nightLights.pdf
Kazzy - 8/22/08 @ 2:04 PM: Ally | Side A
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Thanks for sharing that. That is pretty amazing. FYI, in the near future we will be adding a feature that will allow you to insert links,images,videos, to support your argument.

Side B Comment

Crazy Legs - 8/22/08 @ 10:01 AM:
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ANWR has a lot of oil, sure... but it's not and indefinate amount. We need to break our dependancy NOW. If not now, when? The more places we drill, the more places we ruin. Stop drilling holes all over the Earth and invest more, a lot more, in R&D towards alternative fuels.

In other words, make the decision then go for it full tilt. I bet we'll be amazed at what we can come up with if we quit dragging out or dependancy on oil.

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MARV - 8/19/08 @ 9:02 AM:
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I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT ALL, IF WE HAD DONE THIS 20 YEARS AGO, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS CONDITION. THE GOOD LORD PUT RESOURCES HERE FOR US TO USE, IN THE RIGHT WAY,OF COURSE.

Side A Comment

nickd67 - 8/18/08 @ 10:32 PM:
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There is a company over in Europe that is currently on a vehicle that runs on air and puts out air. The has a 10 gallon air tank that only cost to fill up for pennies on the dollar. Mileage is insane, over 400 miles.
Dennis Plucinik - 8/18/08 @ 10:47 PM: Rival | Side B
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I\'ll take an air scooter if they have one.
Kazzy - 8/18/08 @ 10:52 PM: Ally | Side A
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Sign me up!

Side B Comment

Weasel - 8/14/08 @ 2:45 AM:
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Alternative energy is 20-30 years out. Drilling oil is -10 years out. You want relief now, drill the oil and continue A.E. development. And we are going to need oil for quite some time.

If you love trees then move to Alaska's ANWR region and live there, oh wait there are no trees up there...don't want to live there, then why not drill.

Even a better solution is to use coal gasification. We have more then enough coal.

And those pushing batteries should check out battery plants and see how environmentally friendly there are. Those are just as toxic is not more so then any oil.

Kazzy - 8/15/08 @ 10:51 AM: Rival | Side A
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What about hydrogen?
Dennis Plucinik - 8/16/08 @ 12:20 AM: Ally | Side B
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I don't think the issue is more 'availability\' and less 'toxicity'
Kazzy - 8/16/08 @ 7:17 AM: Rival | Side A
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20-30 years out? Where did you get that number from? Thats scary as hell if its true. It that is the case then by all means, I\'ll operate the auger lets drill!

Side B Comment

CDA 455 - 8/14/08 @ 1:11 AM:
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Screw alternative energy. We have enough oil to be drilled but the pinko liberals won't let us!
big ben - 8/22/08 @ 10:42 PM: Ally | Side B
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you are right on! we had the heart and soul during ww2 to mass produce ships and planes and weaponry in lightning speed. we are not trying to split atoms here, we just need to suck mother earth!

Side A Comment

Olivia Newton - 8/4/08 @ 7:58 PM:
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Once our natural resources have been squandered, land and the animals which are protected, they will exist no more. I am against drilling in the lower 48 states and Alaska, but I'm open to learning more about offshore drilling. Alternative fuel? It's out there, electric cars for instance, and it could be available quickly if the government would not interfere.True, we may be inconvenienced and wouldn't be able to drive at high speeds, but we could adjust, and it would be worth it to save our land and our wildlife.
Kazzy - 8/5/08 @ 2:45 PM: Ally | Side A
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I am personally very interested in Hydrogen Fuel Cells. They are zero emission vehicles but the kicker is that in order to create hydrogen from water you have to use natural gas, at least thats the was the home filling stations are currently being designed.

Side A Comment

cutie122403 - 8/3/08 @ 11:28 PM:
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I think we should invest in alternative fuel but it doesn't look like they are going to do that anytime soon. It doesn't seem like the government is too concerned. I love nature and the animals but they need to do something. I say if that is our only solution then start drilling.

Side A Comment

gonzo - 8/3/08 @ 6:28 PM:
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its one of those things where we have the technology all around us and no one ever wants to use it. its like oh look I must have forgot that i had this design for a more fuel efficent or hydrogen cells in my other pair of pants. hell my marines put cells in thier trucks months ago using odds and ends from around the house.
Dennis Plucinik - 8/7/08 @ 1:25 PM: Rival | Side B
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one reason to not panic is because we have the technology but politics controls the use of them.

Don't you think that a truly better alternative to oil would hurt the Saudis? Well don't you realize how tied into this government they are - um (they own our ports now) and don't you think they'd pay everything they had to prevent an alternative from coming to market because that's what they would stand to lose if one did??

This is economics 101 basically.

Side B Comment

big ben - 8/3/08 @ 12:37 AM:
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I know that we need a solution for energy. That is not an argument. I could go on for hours, but the bottom line is that we are at a point of sink or swim with our economy and its power and influence. To get to alternative forms of energy at a mass production level we need to survive for the time being. It is estimated that in colorado, through the shale, there is an equal quantity of oil to that of the mid-east. We are americans damnit! We have faced great challenges in our SHORT birth as a country, but we have conquered!! We are the greatest nation to sit on the face of the earth. We are freedom fighters, we are full of sacrifice in the persuit of democracy throuout the world. Do i agree with forcing our idealogy on other countries? Hell no. I feel that we as americans have done too much for the world, EUROPE, hint hint!! That does not matter however. We have to collaborate as a nation and decide now, do we want to give up our hard work and blood and give up our empire to socialism, or do we want to take advantage of out vast resources and get through this tough time and lead the world to alternative energy of the future? And yes, I LOVE TREES AND NATURE. We as americans have the brain power to excavate oil safely. For christ sakes....., have we forgot the manhattan project??????
Kazzy - 8/3/08 @ 6:15 AM: Rival | Side A
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For the most part I agree with you. However there are a few things to consider before you start tapping glaciers and installing oil platforms everywhere. First, how long would it take to build the facilities in ANWR? I'm guessing years before it's fully operational. Whats that going to for the gas prices right now? Not a whole lot, maybe drop the price per barrel by a few dollars in anticipation of the increased supply. But prince aziz in Saudi Arabia will sneeze the wrong way and cause the prices to shoot right back up. If they drilled in Alaska years ago we'd be in better shape now but the reality is we have the technology; help the auto makers design, develop, and produce new technologies so we can stick it to big oil like they have been sticking it to us.
Dennis Plucinik - 8/7/08 @ 1:22 PM: Ally | Side B
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Ryan you're exactly right actually, the time for getting to ANWR at the perfect moment (now) has passed... but - if the problem gets worse (which it will) won't the present always be the perfect moment, and as it gets worse, won't it become a more and more perfect moment?

So shouldn't we start now? Maybe we can sell it back to the Saudis at $1k a barrel after they've run out :)

Side A Comment

Kazzy - 8/2/08 @ 4:03 PM:
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This is a tough choice but the reality is neither option is an immediate solution. I do think we need to throw everything we got at alternative fuel sources and we need to avoid at all costs damaging the environment. The last thing I want to do is to provide Big Oil with even more consumer raping black gold.
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